Simple, they lost and paid their fines. Truth of the matter is, many of those stock pipes that got removed have compliance statements stamped into the metal. Yes, I have seen them over the years, but don't recall the exact verbiage, that it says something to the effect that removing or modifying these pipes is illegal. But that is far from an exact quote.
So here is the gig. I have always believed that my rights end, where the next person's begin - it is called mutual respect. I do not have to right to inflict myself or my personal beliefs on you or anyone else. Sure we can talk about it, and even debate the subject, but at the end of the day its a free country and you should be allowed to do what you want - so long as you respect the rights of others. And here comes the big but.......
But my next door neighbor DOES NOT have the right to wake up my entire family (and others in my neighborhood) early in the morning because he likes to take his obnoxious straight pipe equipped V Twin sneezer out for a ride at the a$$ crack of dawn every Saturday morning (and a few Sundays). Naturally that two wheeled POS rarely runs well, so he must endlessly gun it and tweak it for an extended period prior to departing only to high rev it in first gear the first mile or so. And by the way, before you try to say that the noise from the pipes saves lives, then please explain why the speakers must start blasting prior to engine up, and why they must continue to blast at the intersections when he is not moving or needing to be located for "safety" reasons, not to mention him hear horn or sirens. I rode my bike with him just once and he is a rolling accident waiting to happen! And I love the protective gear this "safety" conscious guy wears, like the helmet that could be easily mistaken for a Yamaka if he was Jewish. I'm sure he wears that highly protective item because he is so concerned about "safety." The fact is, he is an obnoxious a-hole that surrounds himself with noise 24/7 because everything he owns that can make a noise has been modified to make the most noise possible. Everyone I live around says they know when this a$$ is home or away by the peace in the neighborhood when he is away. It is a fact that he does not respect the rights of others who should not have to deal with the God awful noise he creates from sun up to sun down and sometimes late into the night. But the double standard come out when he goes to sleep at 8:30 or 9 PM and insists it should be completely quiet in the neighborhood for him or when his grand kids visit, but if he is entertaining you get to hear it into the early morning hours or again when he gets up sometimes before dawn! This behavior is known as disturbing the peace and it is not legal, not to mention there are community noise ordinances that should prevent it that he loves to violate with near impunity. I say impunity because the last police officer that visited spent an hour chatting with him about bikes and comparing notes on their V Twins and their favorite mods. I couldn't help but hear some of it because it was 20 or so feet from my open bedroom window. And I tend to love the cops, but that guy made my list.....
Yet the toxic neighbor is not alone. Should some jerk in a dead silent crowded residential area be allowed to blow it out at 2 AM, I assume on his way home from work nightly and wake up hundreds of people for a quarter mile in each direction. Noise tends to travel when its silent in the dead of night when there are no other vehicles moving, but this jackass gets to wake up ALL OF US up who like to have our windows open when its cool at night? Not to mention the dogs that bark for the next hour after he pissed them off! I guess this guy needs that noise to make sure he can "safely" avoid I guess bats or zombies that may attack if his bike could not rattle the foundations of the nearby homes. Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable excuse.
What a bunch of crap, noise is only noise and nothing else. I'm sorry, don't buy the loud pipes are safe fable. Some people just need to be seen and heard and that's the truth of it. The rest is a bunch of nonsense to justify inconsiderate behavior. Those that believe this myth would make their car/truck/van loud too if it was true, because they are not always visible in blind spots or on the other side of high profile vehicles. It's all nonsense and the reasons offered defy logic. My bike does have an aftermarket exhaust and can make plenty of noise, but my neighbors tell me they cant tell when I come or go each morning or evening, unlike "other people" in our neighborhood. Why? because unlike Mr. Noise, I feel compelled to be respectful of others and I refuse to "turn it up" unless I am on a highway or well away from people - I do not have that right nor should anyone else, with or without self restraint.
Not sure about the details as I’m not an engineer, but I believe there are three parts that make up a test (talking about our machines that we ride over to the testing center).I don't understand how they detect the flash....can't you just have it in ECO mode when its tested...supposedly ECO is untouched in the flashing process?
Operative word=car,Motorcycles are not required to have smog test in California, yetCali is starting next week to check ECU's when you get your smog check.
If your car isn't running the factory software or a tune approved by the California Air Resources Board, you'll fail the test.finance.yahoo.com
Where did you get the ideas that I thought it was a conspiracy or that I needed to lighten up? Seriously, I'm getting questions daily, and seeing on other places online constantly. about folks putting on catless exhausts. Since the Black Widow system was released they can't keep them is stock. These are being shipped in from England. It really makes me wonder about how the epa and other government agencies work together, in that we are allowing importation and purchase of foriegn product to bypass our emissions laws, and yet cracking down and fining American companies for violations.
Operative word=car,Motorcycles are not required to have smog test in California, yet
Not doubting it will happen , but as of now there is no testing,i am kinda curious how that will be done, my bike has All Ca requirements other then pipe. Might nail me on decibles.You are correct sir, although there is discussion in the legislature to change the exception rules. The same thing happened with 2 stoke vehicles. One moment they were fine, and the next second things got let's say "difficult" for owners and sellers of 2 strokes.
What's next?........... testing lawn mowers for Gods sake? Who wouldn't like a Mountain Runner Premium on their Toro.
Lol! I own 2 charcoal smokers and 1 charcoal grill. Obviously I don't use em all at once tho. I work for a Railroad and we have 16cyl 4k HP diesel engines that throw out an enormous amount of HC and CO's. They burn a couple hundred gallons in a trip everyday. Nevermind how much they burn when idling..We and every other Railroad should get our balls broke if anybody.. /rant over lolHere in the People's Republic of Socialist California, mowers and weed wackers were forced to change years ago. They are now tightening the screws on......wait for it......... BBQ grills! Yes, if you are using wood or charcoal, they say you are killing your grand children and should be fined!!
Lol! I own 2 charcoal smokers and 1 charcoal grill. Obviously I don't use em all at once tho. I work for a Railroad and we have 16cyl 4k HP diesel engines that throw out an enormous amount of HC and CO's. They burn a couple hundred gallons in a trip everyday. Nevermind how much they burn when idling..We and every other Railroad should get our balls broke if anybody.. /rant over lol
Ok, OK, let's quit bashing everything that tries to make our air and water better for us. Trains pollute much less than an equivalent number of trucks to haul the same materials. Could some more be done to control train pollution?..probably but it would cost more and that money could be spent elsewhere for better effect. Regardless of whether global warming is a natural earth cycle or if it is indeed a product of our pollution...it's just common sense (that term is like "fairness" everybody has their own definition of what's fair and what is common sense so I use it somewhat in jest)...it's just common sense not to put poisons into the air we breathe and the water we drink. Sometimes those that are trying to change our polluting ways do get a bit out of control, as do those that resist and express their defiance by coal rolling. Lawn mowers pollute 11 times as much as a modern car does in hour per hour comparisons so yes eventually there will be some address of that (soon I hope). Almost anyone that has flown commercially with a window seat in the late sixties and early seventies in the U.S. can recall the layer of brown "stuff" that we climbed through and then later at the end of the flight descended through. It is essentially gone now at least in the U.S., I don't fly as much as I used to but when I do I still look for it. I can only imagine how bad it would be now if we had done nothing at all.
As much as I hate open exhaust on motorcycles, truth is noise pollution is just noise. It may have some effect on wildlife but it doesn't linger in the air like HC and CO does. So go ahead and install a slip-on if you want to, but please don't go busting out your cats for a negligible amount (if any) of gain in performance.
Vent all you want about out of control bureaucrats and some of their silly ideas and regulation proposals, but getting rid of all attempts to control our pollution is not the answer. It's not the goal that's bad, it's just how we do it that needs adjusting. Personally I think the lawn mower pollution problem is much worse than what minimal auto/motorcycle re-flashers are doing. I would not mind if lawns in general were reduced across the country by 50% or more to reduce mower pollution, reduce water usage, reduce fertilizer run off, reduce insecticide usage etc. I'll bet the golfers here are especially glad I'm not in charge.
There eventually will be a natural correction, people and their pollution are the problem, and eventually if we don't further address our polluting ways there will be fewer of us, so it will eventually stabilize after some oscillation. Probably be a lot of physical suffering and extinction events in the future of our grand-kids and theirs if we decide to go that route.