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Non-Sportbike Training Day

S Smith

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At the 2025 National Rally I was very fortunate recipient of one of the two gift certificate prizes for Ken Condon's Riding in the Zone Non-Sportbike Training Day when a family member won that raffle item. I was able to participate in the May 27, 2025 training day at Palmer Motorsports Park, in Palmer MA. This is a 2.3 mile, 40-foot wide racing circuit that has 14 cambered corners, 190’ of vertical elevation, and greater than 509’ cumulative elevation change.

This was my first experience on the track and found that the C14 performed well on the course. The training is an excellent way for riders on almost any type of bike to develop skills on a closed course, learning in a safe environment at real-world speeds, and without the typical hazards of street riding. The diversity of motorcycles at the training was surprising, and ranged from full-dressed, adventure, dual sport and everything in between. The training day uses a self-directed learning model. Riding technique information is delivered in the classroom, then apply the lessons on the track, followed by a return to the classroom with questions and to hear the next lesson.

There were 3 groups (slow, intermediate, fast) and during the day each group rode six 20 minute on-track sessions. A good number of instructors rode in each session observing riders. When they got in front of you tapping the tail of their bike, that is a signal to follow the leader and do what they do to improve your path of travel through the curves.

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At the 2025 National Rally I was very fortunate recipient of one of the two gift certificate prizes for Ken Condon's Riding in the Zone Non-Sportbike Training Day when a family member won that raffle item. I was able to participate in the May 27, 2025 training day at Palmer Motorsports Park, in Palmer MA. This is a 2.3 mile, 40-foot wide racing circuit that has 14 cambered corners, 190’ of vertical elevation, and greater than 509’ cumulative elevation change.

This was my first experience on the track and found that the C14 performed well on the course. The training is an excellent way for riders on almost any type of bike to develop skills on a closed course, learning in a safe environment at real-world speeds, and without the typical hazards of street riding. The diversity of motorcycles at the training was surprising, and ranged from full-dressed, adventure, dual sport and everything in between. The training day uses a self-directed learning model. Riding technique information is delivered in the classroom, then apply the lessons on the track, followed by a return to the classroom with questions and to hear the next lesson. There were 3 groups (slow, intermediate, fast) and during the day each group rode six 20 minute on-track sessions.

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that is awesome wish we had a track like that ours is 1.8 miles did my first track day 2 weekends ago and will go again at the end of june. i took my 2014 ninja 1000sx and it was a blast. most of us ended up "racing", i guess it got the better of us but next time will focus on line selection and body position. i was surprised looking at pictures and videos afterwards how i did not ride the lines as well as i should have somehow this is very different from street. People also were very friendly and willing to help to answer any questions. I would also highly recommend it. Concentrate on practicing one or two things at a time, follow a more experienced rider are things I'll be doing next time.
 

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Doug Re has been doing a Sport-Touring Training Day in Jennings Florida.
I attended it twice and had a blast/learned a lot.
Does anyone know if he did it last year and will he be doing so again?

Ride safe, Ted
 

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Doug Re has been doing a Sport-Touring Training Day in Jennings Florida.
I attended it twice and had a blast/learned a lot.
Does anyone know if he did it last year and will he be doing so again?

Ride safe, Ted

He's not around anymore, not sure if he even rides anymore. He has taken up sailing.
 
He's not around anymore, not sure if he even rides anymore. He has taken up sailing
How many showed up for that sport touring track day?
I'm guessing Doug quit doing the school because no one showed up?
If Connie riders want to get faster, safer, and more confident for any situation, they should go to the track, IMHO.

If folks decide to do so, I am game to bring mine to the track for the first time.
I race WERA, but haven't done any track days on the C-14.
I would consider hosting or instructing at Jennings/possible other tracks.
Little Tally, Polecat Training Center, Atlanta Motorsports Park, Barber, etc., could be options, but there are track day organizations to deal with.
Jennings is a bike only track, they will rent to private groups, and cost is based on how many people, on what dates.
I could probably get a couple of other instructors at JGP. Other tracks, TBD.
 
Count me in! Jennings isn't my favorite, it's awfully tight in the back section for the mighty (big) Concours. Been there twice. But I would gladly attend.
Blackhawk in Wisconsin/Illinois state line is bike only and very good, been there twice.
RoadAmerica is a blast but way too big and fast. Been there twice and a crash.
Roebling in GA is not my favorite. Better suited for cars. Been there once.
Mid Ohio is perfect. Been there once.
Barber would be nice.
There's a new one in MO just north of st Louis, looks interesting.

Regardless of venue, I'm interested.
 
How many showed up for that sport touring track day?
I'm guessing Doug quit doing the school because no one showed up?

The best I can remember from the times I went; there was about 20 - 24 in attendance. Doug is just not involved with COG any more for other reasons.

I would maybe interested in doing this again.
 
Here is what it costs to rent the track for private days:
***Private Track Rental***
Weekday Track Rental Mon - Fri
1 - 6 Riders $3,200
7 - 15 Riders $4,500
16 - 30 Riders $6,000
31 - 50 Riders $7,500
$200 per additional rider after 54
Weekend Track Rental:
One day rental: $7,500
Two day rental: $14,000
Three day rental: $18,000
$200 per additional riders after 54
 
If you could get 50 riders, the cost per rider wouldn't be too bad.
Three groups of 15-20 riders would work well. One group of Connie riders, and two other groups.
Twenty minute sessions.
I bet twenty minutes on the C-14 would be tiring!
 
When Doug did the Rider Training, he did it on a standard Track Day.
ie; The track wasn't reserved for us only.

We would do a class before each session, and the classes were timed so that we could ride with the Novices during their sessions.
Like Cliff, I think he did 20-25 Riders.
As I recall, cost was about $180 per person.

He filled his openings each year, but it took some patience from him to do so as people always wait until the last minute to commit.

Ride safe, Ted
 
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Pmack, if you do this, I'd be interested.

If it helps you:
I attempted to do a Rider Training School several years ago but was unable to work out the details.
ie; I'm not a Racer, so have little knowledge on how to co-ordinate with the track.

What I discovered was RideSmart.

RideSmart does schools at various Tracks and {more importantly} do all the arrangements.
I see that Jennings is one of them.

If a person works thru them, that person could work out the details with them and then they do the arrangement's.
Everyone pay's their money, attends the classes, and do track sessions after each class.
The pace starts slow and builds up thru the day.
This is very similar to what Doug did, but he gave the classes.

Here is a video from RideSmart.

Ride safe, Ted

 
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