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2018 Wing

diz@ct

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Hope you didn't order fog lights twice or can you put the 2nd pair on the Tiger? What a great looking motorcycle and love that blue! 1st time with DCT? Let us know how you like it; especially after getting caught in stop and slow traffic.
:great:
 

advtracker

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Diz said:
Hope you didn't order fog lights twice or can you put the 2nd pair on the Tiger? What a great looking motorcycle and love that blue! 1st time with DCT? Let us know how you like it; especially after getting caught in stop and slow traffic.
:great:
Yup first DCT.  Take delivery tomorrow so will post my thoughts.  At first I laughed at the idea, but absolutely every review by racers and major magazines fell head over heels with the DCT.  Apparently smooth as hell, lightning shifting either in full auto or with the paddle shifters, and the DCT has a 7th gear so the bike always stays right in the power band when you're wicking it up.  I have a Tiger and a GSXR for plenty of "old style".
 

advtracker

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Here she is:



 

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advtracker

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ZG said:
Looks great! 8)

Thanks Jay....


This thing's got more electrics than the A320 Airbus I retired off of four years ago.  Going to hold off on any real riding until my Wingstuff order arrives and I start tearing it apart to install all the usual electric stuff:  3 extra power ports, Homelink, Rowe Electrics PDM60,  Fog lights, rack, rack LED, armrests, iPhone RAM holder, so on so forth.

Storage issue just is what it is... Even a luggage rack isn't going to rectify the issue.  The dreaded trailer is the only real option for extended tours, other than convincing the SO to wash our socks, underwear, and other female paraphernalia in the sink every night.  ::)

My initial concerns about the lack of a real HP increase have been proven incorrect.  The torque curve jumps straight up vertically at 2K RPM.  This bike has plenty of cajones.  I'm very pleasantly surprised.  I didn't expect that.  I was wrong. 

Now to just solve the "only one" helmet lock issue.  Fred Harmon it appears has engineered a fix for this and should be coming up with a kit.

I'm sure aftermarket will figure out a way to make the pass. grab rails more utilitarian, add storage holders, etc. 


As far as the DCT, that was a tough decision, but even in the whole 40 miles I have on the bike, I really like it.  Only comment is the downshifts; manual or full auto, are slightly abrupt.  Still got my Tiger and GSX-R for my old style urges though.

Standing by for incoming!!!   :truce:
 

diz@ct

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DCT will smooth out. It isn't intuitive but seems to act like it over time. Stop and slow traffic will no longer kill your left hand.

What is it Leno likes to repeat- "Horsepower impresses critics; torque wins races" or something like that.  :great:
 

SilverConnieRider

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This thing's got more electrics than the A320 Airbus I retired off of four years ago.

Really?  I bet the navigation and auto pilot are superior on the A320.  :)

Not to mention cruising speed.  Although fuel mileage is probably better on the GW.

BTW very nice wing you have.  Great Color too.
Just not sure if I could live with less storage than I had on my 1984 Aspencade.
 

advtracker

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SilverConnieRider said:
This thing's got more electrics than the A320 Airbus I retired off of four years ago.

Really?  I bet the navigation and auto pilot are superior on the A320.  :)

Not to mention cruising speed.  Although fuel mileage is probably better on the GW.

BTW very nice wing you have.  Great Color too.
Just not sure if I could live with less storage than I had on my 1984 Aspencade.

No arguments with that.  It's a negative that da_n near prevented the purchase.  But the multiple positives outweighed it.  So....  do I really need to carry this many tools, fuel xfer hose, duct tape, the SOs thongs, heavy scarf, 10 million extra batteries, laptop vs. iPad, compressor vs. just a few CO2 cartridges, wine, bucket of almonds, etc?  Brain realignment coming. 
 

SilverConnieRider

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Hey WingCon,

Can you take a pic (or 3) of the dash area?

Now that you've had it a few days is there a favorite item (or feature) on the bike that makes the purchase even more worth it?
 

advtracker

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My new SENA SRL is on back order.  I ordered it as it's a special fit for my new Shoes Neotec 2.  (Great helmet!!)  Apple Car Play won't show up until you're paired.  My previous SENA 20S is in the trash.  Battery finally STB after several years of use.
There's lots of pics available online of the dash area.

SilverConnieRider said:
Hey WingCon,

Can you take a pic (or 3) of the dash area?

Now that you've had it a few days is there a favorite item (or feature) on the bike that makes the purchase even more worth it?
 

advtracker

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I've only driven it 35 miles so far.  The one big plus is the DCT.  I love it.  And Sport Mode is very spirited.  Unfortunately, I'm getting ready to strip it down to its birthday suit to install all accessories so it's going to be awhile before I get it out again.


SilverConnieRider said:
Hey WingCon,

Can you take a pic (or 3) of the dash area?

Now that you've had it a few days is there a favorite item (or feature) on the bike that makes the purchase even more worth it?
 

diz@ct

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Has the better half gone out on the Wing yet? Saw a review done by a passenger who complained there was too much buffeting. Of course she also mentioned it was a windy day.........
 

advtracker

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Diz said:
Has the better half gone out on the Wing yet? Saw a review done by a passenger who complained there was too much buffeting. Of course she also mentioned it was a windy day.........
Diz said:
Has the better half gone out on the Wing yet? Saw a review done by a passenger who complained there was too much buffeting. Of course she also mentioned it was a windy day.........

Actually I've only gone 35 miles.  Getting ready to tear it apart to install accessories.
 

Bud

Member
Member
A buddy and myself rode to Evansville, IN to West Side Honda and test rode the new Wing.  That thing has more buttons and bells and whistles than you can shake a stick at.  Rode between 25 and 30 miles.  I'm not going to write a big review, but it was very smooth, very powerful and very comfy and handled very well to boot.  Raised expansion joints and other bumps were absorbed completely.  The seat was probably the most comfortable seat I've ever sat on.  I rode my buddy's 02 Wing on the way back to the shop.  First ride on one of those.  It was very nice also, but not nearly as nice as the new one.  Thanks to the really nice owner of West Side Honda for the opportunity to ride such a nice bike.  If money were no issue, I'd have one in the garage. :motonoises: :motonoises:
 

lieu910

Moped
I just saw the new wing at my dealer when I dropped my C14 off for CC install.

It's much improved (long overdue I might add). However, I sold my K16GT for the primary reason that it was just to darn big and heavy for my tastes. The older I am getting, the more I appreciate the virtues of a smaller and lighter bike.

That said, Honda has done a nice job on the new wing. 
 

556ALPHA

Street Cruiser
I purchased the same DCT model.  At first it was a bit rough shifting but after the Initialization procedure it feels much nicer!


 

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zg

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TJ said:
I purchased the same DCT model.  At first it was a bit rough shifting but after the Initialization procedure it feels much nicer!

Grats TJ, she's beautiful! Keep us posted on your likes and dislikes as you put some miles on her!  :great:
 

556ALPHA

Street Cruiser
Thanks, I sure will.  After the 275 mile ride home I was worried I may have made a mistake with the DCT.  Now after another couple hundred I am really liking it more each mile!  :great:
 

connie_rider

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Without going back and reading the 7 pages.
For those of us that don't know anything about a wing,,, What is the DCT Model?

Ride safe, Ted
 

556ALPHA

Street Cruiser
Its a Dual Clutch Transmission.  Notice the absence of the shift lever on the bar and shifter peg.  Has 2 ways of operating, manual or automatic. Auto mode you just twist and go, manual you can paddle shift up and down.  Same concept in the Africa Twin, VFR 1200, and CTX. 

I had a lot of reservations as a police motor officer who relies on the clutch for precise maneuvers, but I also think outside the box and like new technology.  Then there is the attitudes of others if that weighs on your mind (scooter, silverwing, etc), I tend to go my own way and not with the herd.

Long story short had I taken it for a test ride I probably would have chosen the Manual 6 speed but I guess that was a blessing in disguise as both my wife and I really have warmed up to it.  She loves the smooth ride that the DCT affords.  stated this evening she would not want to go back to a manual.  It takes some saddle time to feel it out and know whats gonna happen when.  When I got home from the dealer about 275 miles I feared I had made a mistake, but now I look forward to more riding and the fun. 

They are selling at at rate of 3:1  DCT to Manual
 

robertv

robzilla
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Nice TJ and WingCon!! Seems DCT and blue color is the way to go! Giving it another year on my C14 and letting the bugs and dust settle from the new wings before switching. Looking forward to more reports and farkle upgrades on the new steed!  :great:  :))

 

zg

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Sounds like Honda just announced the 2019 Wing models, new color added "Darkness Black Metallic", some software updates as well but nothing too major that I've heard so far.

My local dealer has their 2018 models marked down already, $4k off the one I almost bought in the Spring.

Decisions, decisions...  :??:


 

zg

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Diz said:
Would you have to thin the herd to fit a Wing in the garage?

I have no idea what I'll do DZ, I'm really enjoying the VFR and have done some trips on it just fine with only me. I'm still interested in the new Wing, but have found myself also considering something fun 4 wheeled, new to me M3 hard top convertibles can be had for about the same $ as the new Wing, given the choice I think mama would enjoy trips in a convertible more than the Wing. If I bought the Wing it's main purpose would be 2up touring, hence my pondering... The good thing is heading into Winter gives me plenty o time to think about it. I'm also still intrigued about K1600GTL... Choices are great.  ;D
 

advtracker

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ZG said:
Diz said:
Would you have to thin the herd to fit a Wing in the garage?

I have no idea what I'll do DZ, I'm really enjoying the VFR and have done some trips on it just fine with only me. I'm still interested in the new Wing, but have found myself also considering something fun 4 wheeled, new to me M3 hard top convertibles can be had for about the same $ as the new Wing, given the choice I think mama would enjoy trips in a convertible more than the Wing. If I bought the Wing it's main purpose would be 2up touring, hence my pondering... The good thing is heading into Winter gives me plenty o time to think about it. I'm also still intrigued about K1600GTL... Choices are great.  ;D

Hi Jay,
Just some food for thought, I've rented Beemers in Alaska and South America five times.  Every time, either myself or someone I was riding with, had electrical or computer problems on a Beemer.  Including one intermittent total electrical failure.  Maybe just bad luck, but maybe not.......    Also, I've met two people that had the main fuse blow on new Beemers shortly after taking delivery.


Joe
 

advtracker

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ZG said:
TJ said:
I purchased the same DCT model.  At first it was a bit rough shifting but after the Initialization procedure it feels much nicer!

Grats TJ, she's beautiful! Keep us posted on your likes and dislikes as you put some miles on her!  :great:

Finishing up a 2300 mile trip thru WA BC AB MT and ID tomorrow.  Wife is now saying seat isn't as plush as my '03, but certainly acceptable.  However she can't reach the grab rails, and even with the add-on armrests she can't really rest her arms on them.  Windy'er too, but nothing an F4 can't take care off.  :). 45mpg for the trip.  I figure with my '03 that got 43mpg that's about 35 miles less range.  Really like the DCT, but the nav system is very primitive compared to a Zumo.  Upgrade coming I understand.  Storage is what it is....
 

advtracker

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robertv said:
Nice TJ and WingCon!! Seems DCT and blue color is the way to go! Giving it another year on my C14 and letting the bugs and dust settle from the new wings before switching. Looking forward to more reports and farkle upgrades on the new steed!  :great: :))
Farkles=.  Fog lights, homelink, acc socket, acc cord, usb cord, armrests, trunk organizer, gas and storage vinyl pocket add-ons, headlight protector, F4 windscreen, trunk rack and LED stoplight.  Better give yourself A LOT of time to do this.  Very invasive procedure.  Almost all plastic removed during the process except for the nose.
 

diz@ct

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Thanks for the short review about passenger comfort. Had seen several videos where the passenger complained of buffeting and wasn't sure if the passenger didn't have experience as a passenger or if the redesigned Wing exposed the passenger more. Hope yo get hundreds of thousands of miles with smiles.

And a Beemer is the only bike that has left me stranded. Had some pretty miserable failures with that brand but the the worst was actually drinking the Kool Aid 6 times......  :mad:
 

kathybrj

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We looked at one yesterday in Johnson City TN. I'm seriously thinking this will be my next bike, in the DCT that I laughed at so much when I bought mmy ctx700. I didn't take it for a ride but I had it in walk mode around the showroom. I was amazed at the balance of the bike and will be looking to test ride a demo sometime soon.
 

lieu910

Moped
I gave the new Wing a look. I still think the K16 is the better bike for me if I were to decide to go that route again. More engine, lighter handling, more sporting. Actually the new RT with the new 1250 engine would probably  be my first choice. Lighter still, and plenty of poke with 137hp and around 100 ft lb of torque.

The thing I did not like about my K16 was how big and heavy it was, which is why I went to a C14. Not a bunch lighter, but enough to feel it, and physically smaller. Maybe I'm just not a large touring bike kind of guy. Smaller seems to work better for me. 

That said, if cranking out interstate is a big part of the riding scope, the Wing is probably better suited for that scope than any other bike made.
 

zg

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connie_rider said:
ZG said:
:motonoises:

https://youtu.be/lnKdpkIRVNU

Hopefully that wasn't you ZG.
  I doubt he made many friends on that highway...

Ride safe, Ted

Who needs friends on the highway Ted, I thought that's what the internet was for...  ;D
 

advtracker

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Just ordered an F4 20" (Tour standard height.) 5" wider total, clear, with recurve. 
Nasty T-storm finishing up our 11 day trip over Snoqualmie Pass made the decision.  My '03 had one and it really does shed rain well.
 

connie_rider

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Who needs friends on the highway Ted, I thought that's what the internet was for... ;D

Good point. Hadn't thought about that.
Besides, no one likes me anyway.  :motonoises:

Ride safe, Ted
 

1jeep

Mini Bike
I just purchased a New BMW K1600 GTL exclusive. After spending 11 days in Italy on a BMW I had to have one, the plane might as well as landed at the BMW dealer. I did look at the wing, dealer had a few in stock and were trying to deal. Wife didn't like the bike and I found it had too much crap on board...I dont need apple carplay.

Good luck on your decision, they are all good bikes and have their purposes.
 

BadgerApaches

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Invest in Honda, again.

Many years ago a touring/race track friend sold off his BrokeMYWallet bikes and went to his 1st GoldWing, pulling a trailer pop up camper. It was the shit, and we all laughed at him as he would roll out the astro-turf carpeting entrance into his abode. Then, he'd dig out his bottle of Gentleman Jack and come join us at the fire pit.

Many years ago working in a GM factory we would have "diagonal slice" meetings for hourly/salary interface. Toyota was eating our lunch, and everybody knew it. Still happening today.

Honda/Kawi/Yam are eating H-D and BMW's lunch. It is good to see Honda and Gold Wings still dominating while the "big 3" of moto world continue to subsist on their government contracts.

Soon enough, we'll be picking out the GW ultra light jet bikes for retirement touring!  :beerchug:
 
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