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Hello, i`m going to do my first oil change on my 2015 C14. Any input on best oil filter and where to buy. Jim
Hello, i`m going to do my first oil change on my 2015 C14. Any input on best oil filter and where to buy. Jim
connie_rider said:I don't know which filter is best.
I prefer the K&N - 303 because of the hex nut on the end that helps with removal/installation.
The hex comes in very handy.
Ride safe, Ted
stallhorn said:I am thinking about going with Mobil M1-110a, but not sure if it fits. It replaces the old M1-110, which is listed under "oil filters" in the parts section. It is $10 at Walmart and good for extended OCI. I am not planning to change the oil for atleast 7500 miles
Clip67 said:My first oil change produced some colorful language... That oil filter was obnoxiously tight! I actually broke the rubber strap on a strap wrench trying to get it off!
Syxxphive said:Found this on bobistheoilguy.com
There is no such thing as a "motorcycle" oil filter or a "car" oil filter; they just aren't that "specific". ....
interesting..smokin said:HiFlow racing oil filter to suit Kawasaki ZG1400 A8F-EGF Concours ABS (GTR1400) 2008-16 Oil Filter HF303RC. Available from Ebay or Amazon.If you have a magnetic sump plug which are drilled you can tie wire the filter through a hole in the nut to the sump plug or not.
P07r0457 said:Some tracks require you to secure the oil filter and drain plug with safety wire so they don't come unscrewed and spread oil over the track.MAN OF BLUES said:(I'm missing the justification of tieing a wire from the fliter to a 'drilled' magnetic drain plug in sump tho..)
Eric said:Clip67 said:My first oil change produced some colorful language... That oil filter was obnoxiously tight! I actually broke the rubber strap on a strap wrench trying to get it off!
I had a very similar experience! My steel band filter wrench wouldn't budge it so I drove to an auto parts store and bought the end cap style wrench, which just spun and smoothed out the end of the filter. I finally ended up buying a strap type wrench that with the appropriate cuss words broke it loose. :-[
Been using mobil1 M110a, and had the SAME experience, even after buying a set of "channel-lock" style pliers to grip the filter end. I usually end-up crushing the filter in very disturbing ways.
Effort to not over-tighten the filter have been fruitless to resolve.
Would you or anyone else have dimensions for the filter guard? I'd like it on my itty bitty six fiddy Versys. I does use the same filters as a C-14. The exhaust may interfere with fitment.4Bikes said:No matter what filter you use, I recommend Murph’s oil filter protector. I pop riveted a simple metal tab to it, and it contacts the oil pan, so there is no way the filter can ever spin loose.
https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?products_id=410&osCsid=8nB04rL5Ce0xTpIufMIDN0
stallhorn said:Been using mobil1 M110a, and had the SAME experience, even after buying a set of "channel-lock" style pliers to grip the filter end. I usually end-up crushing the filter in very disturbing ways.
Effort to not over-tighten the filter have been fruitless to resolve.
Not sure I understand. Do you torque the filter to 14ft/lbs per the book or does the filter tighten itself?
I had a hard time taking off the factory filter (like a lot of people on here), so I don't think it is a good idea to torque it to 14ft/lbs. I will do what I do with all the filters that install on all my motorized vehicles - snug it by hand and then a 1/4 to 1/2 turn more.
SteveJ. said:Would you or anyone else have dimensions for the filter guard? I'd like it on my itty bitty six fiddy Versys. I does use the same filters as a C-14. The exhaust may interfere with fitment.
4Bikes said:No matter what filter you use, I recommend Murph’s oil filter protector. I pop riveted a simple metal tab to it, and it contacts the oil pan, so there is no way the filter can ever spin loose.
https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?products_id=410&osCsid=8nB04rL5Ce0xTpIufMIDN0
connie_rider said:SteveJ. said:Would you or anyone else have dimensions for the filter guard? I'd like it on my itty bitty six fiddy Versys. I does use the same filters as a C-14. The exhaust may interfere with fitment.
I put a speaker magnet on top of my filter (to attract metal particles) and Murph's filter guard fits over everything easily.
Dimensions are 4" long 2 3/4" OD..
(if needed) It would be EZ to cut it shorter with a little patience and a hacksaw.
Polishes up nicely if you want to make it pretty for your itty bitty six fiddy Versys..
Ride safe, Ted
I've got one on the way. The filter is a bit exposed on these bikes, facing front kinda close to the tire path. I do like farkles.connie_rider said:Yes, I know it's a sin, but thought it might be worth doing {once} before you install it.
Ride safe, Ted
connie_rider said:There, I fixed it for ya.. :nananana:
I may just polish it for S&Gs. It would be the only shiny bit on the bike, for awhile.
Heck who knows,,, that "shiny bit" may even inspire you to actually wash it... :great:
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh…………………
Ride safe, Ted
connie_rider said:OMG!! You washed it... Oh, the shame... :nananana:
See ya at Cliff's. Hopefully we won't get thestorerr shower this year...
Let us know how the filter cover works out for you...
Ride safe, Ted
MAN OF BLUES said:interesting..smokin said:HiFlow racing oil filter to suit Kawasaki ZG1400 A8F-EGF Concours ABS (GTR1400) 2008-16 Oil Filter HF303RC. Available from Ebay or Amazon.If you have a magnetic sump plug which are drilled you can tie wire the filter through a hole in the nut to the sump plug or not.
(I'm missing the justification of tieing a wire from the fliter to a 'drilled' magnetic drain plug in sump tho..)
as we can now see, the K&N, and the HiFlow, share the same canister....hmmmmm......
coincidence?
SteveJ. said:connie_rider said:OMG!! You washed it... Oh, the shame... :nananana:
See ya at Cliff's. Hopefully we won't get thestorerr shower this year...
Let us know how the filter cover works out for you...
Ride safe, Ted
10/4
Just Cliff said:SteveJ. said:connie_rider said:OMG!! You washed it... Oh, the shame... :nananana:
See ya at Cliff's. Hopefully we won't get thestorerr shower this year...
Let us know how the filter cover works out for you...
Ride safe, Ted
10/4
:hum:, something going on at Cliff's? Let me know when so I can be there.
SteveJ. said:I've got one on the way. The filter is a bit exposed on these bikes, facing front kinda close to the tire path. I do like farkles.connie_rider said:Yes, I know it's a sin, but thought it might be worth doing {once} before you install it.
Ride safe, Ted
I may just polish it for S&Gs. It would be the only shiny bit on the bike.
connie_rider said:Arghhhhh!!
NOTE: If it don't work, {after you polish it} you could always give it to me.. :great:
Glad I could help,
Ride safe, Ted
connie_rider said:Gee, yer a nice guy. :rotflmao:
Ride safe, Ted
connie_rider said:SteveJ. said:Would you or anyone else have dimensions for the filter guard? I'd like it on my itty bitty six fiddy Versys. I does use the same filters as a C-14. The exhaust may interfere with fitment.
I put a speaker magnet on top of my filter (to attract metal particles) and Murph's filter guard fits over everything easily.
Dimensions are 4" long 2 3/4" OD..
(if needed) It would be EZ to cut it shorter with a little patience and a hacksaw.
Polishes up nicely if you want to make it pretty for your itty bitty six fiddy Versys..
Ride safe, Ted
connie_rider said:A magnet is primarily just another method to catch the steel particles.
Plus, it can catch smaller particles than the filter will.
Ride safe, Ted
AHHH!!! TD is digging up graves!
Both the K & N and the HiFlo Filtro have the nut on the end. I use either one on my 2009 C14.I don't know which filter is best.
I prefer the K&N - 303 because of the hex nut on the end that helps with removal/installation.
The hex comes in very handy. (Available at many auto parts stores)
Ride safe, Ted
+1I don't know which filter is best.
I prefer the K&N - 303 because of the hex nut on the end that helps with removal/installation.
The hex comes in very handy. (Available at many auto parts stores)
Ride safe, Ted
I was referring to Marinick's post... He mentioned a HiFlo Filter being constructed the same as a K & N.
Ride safe, Ted
Hey Ted, you have the regular 303. The one with the nut is the "race" version. HF303RC.You made me think; I have 2 HiFlo Filtro's in my garage. #HF-303
I didn't recall the nut, so I checked, and neither have the nut on the end. (??)
Do I have the wrong filter?
Ride safe, Ted
Hey Ted, you have the regular 303. The one with the nut is the "race" version. HF303RC.
Hiflofiltro HF303RC-3 Black 3 Pack Premium Oil Filter, 3 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C32DR8...abc_5R3C75YWXCSK4F08HFC0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Norm
It's sorta like asking why doesn't everybody exercise like they should and save money on medicine and Doctor bills. Yes, we could do that but most are probably too lazy. Same goes for the reusable oil filter, It has to be cleaned in solvent and then blown out with compressed air. My place is messy enough now without having a bunch of dirty solvent to dispose of and blowing it out of the filter on my lawn or into a plastic bag or ....well where do you blow yours out?why not get a reusuable and be done?. it will pay for itself too,
everybike i own has one.
it’s finned also so it’s a oil cooler too. yup, i soak in gas and blow out with compressed air. done in 5 minutes.It's sorta like asking why doesn't everybody exercise like they should and save money on medicine and Doctor bills. Yes, we could do that but most are probably too lazy. Same goes for the reusable oil filter, It has to be cleaned in solvent and then blown out with compressed air. My place is messy enough now without having a bunch of dirty solvent to dispose of and blowing it out of the filter on my lawn or into a plastic bag or ....well where do you blow yours out?
So yes, a good idea if you are all set up for regular solvent disposal and have a garage air compressor (I would guess only 50% on here do, not counting the little portable 12vdc models...hmm ...."survey sez time"?). Most here aren't so lazy that they won't change their own oil, but it's so easy to recycle the used filter or toss it in the trash with the used kitty litter and then just spin the new one on.
Thanks Norm. I do like that better, but, I don't think I'll be ordering anytime soon.Hey Ted, you have the regular 303. The one with the nut is the "race" version. HF303RC.
Hiflofiltro HF303RC-3 Black 3 Pack Premium Oil Filter, 3 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C32DR8...abc_5R3C75YWXCSK4F08HFC0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Norm
I also bought a special K&N oil filter that is longer than the std filters for our bikes. It holds more oil, and costs less than the K&N 303.
(sorry, don't have number for it handy)
I think I had the 198, but the 196 would be better as it has more capacity.It's probably a KN-198. 13mm longer and 1mm narrower.
Or a KN-196 which is 14mm longer and 2mm wider.
yup and mike is maverick9611This is what I upgraded to. Mike, who sold me his BlackWidow, turned me on to it. By the 5th or 6th oil change this will have paid for itself.
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why would you use anything else?
Can't have you get the last word;I'm glad I settled all this. thankfully it's all over.
checkmate
win with the reusable filter it pays for itself!! why would you use anything else?
Even though I've used a K&N air filter since new I've always been skeptical of a reusable oil filter.
This is highly debatable. The average cost of a spin on is $13.00, that would take 10 filter changes to break even. That amounts to 50,000 - 75,000 miles depending on your schedule. The large majority of owners do not keep bikes that long or put on that many miles.
Also not sure about the math on the oil change frequency. I'm using dino juice (20W50 JASO 2) with each 3k change, so to get to 75k miles I'll be changing roughly 20 times.
3,000 is typically not even enough for 1 trip. Changing oil in a Wal-Mart parking lot while on a trip kinda sucks.
Frequency was based on my 5,000 interval simply because I find it easier to keep up with & Kawasaki recommends 7,500 miles so 3,000 never occurred to me.
3,000 is typically not even enough for 1 trip. Changing oil in a Wal-Mart parking lot while on a trip kinda sucks.
To stay on topic my oil has been changed 56 times, 56 X 13 is $728. So I would have saved approx. $600.00 based on $13.0
Thanks Ted! Heading to HD to get these. I like that better than the Motion Pro magnets. I do have a magnetic oil plug so this combo should work great!Thanks Norm. I do like that better, but, I don't think I'll be ordering anytime soon.
ie; I had a buying spree and bought 4 HiFlo's and 6 K&N's.
I also bought a special K&N oil filter that is longer than the std filters for our bikes. It holds more oil, and costs less than the K&N 303.
(sorry, don't have number for it handy)
fyi;
The hex nut on the bottom of the filters has another useful function that folks may not be aware of..
ie; You can put a washer style magnet over it, and the hex helps keep it in place. (ID needs to be about 3/4" to 1")
(The magnet attracts metal particles as the oil passes thru the filter and helps keep them "IN"side the filter)
Looks like this;
Ride safe, Ted
Norm, be sure the hole thru the center is big enough. Looking at the photo of their magnet, I couldn't tell for certain.Thanks Ted! Heading to HD to get these. I like that better than the Motion Pro magnets. I do have a magnetic oil plug so this combo should work great!
Hmm, the reusable oil filter and a Sprint air filter.
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Norm
The M1-110A is a direct replacement IF you have converted to Bergman's Spin on Adapter kit. (Of course this is for a C10, not sure what the C14 takes.)I am thinking about going with Mobil M1-110a, but not sure if it fits. It replaces the old M1-110, which is listed under "oil filters" in the parts section. It is $10 at Walmart and good for extended OCI. I am not planning to change the oil for atleast 7500 miles