With or without risers?The handlebar wedges sold on Murph's Kits make a noticeable difference in being able to keep my rear end in the sweet spot of my new Corbin seat, which was my goal. It feels like the bars are more comfortable to hold now with the adjustment after having installed the wedges. The additional height and setback is noticeable in feel only. It's not that exaggerated. I think that was money well spent.