Glenn said:I guess you try to make it sound better. Doesn't help with the looks any. :
Stlheadake said:I replaced my stock exhaust with an Area P. No regrets. It's not too loud for all day riding, but when you get in it you KNOW you're in it! My question is, WHY IS THE STOCK CANNON SO DAMNED BIG? It looks like someone hacked a car exhaust on the side of the bike! I understand there regulations, but look at other 'big' bikes and their exhausts aren't so ugly! Heck, look at the new FJR. It's exhausts are big, but they at least made them look decent.
Cap'n Bob said:Stlheadake said:I replaced my stock exhaust with an Area P. No regrets. It's not too loud for all day riding, but when you get in it you KNOW you're in it! My question is, WHY IS THE STOCK CANNON SO DAMNED BIG? It looks like someone hacked a car exhaust on the side of the bike! I understand there regulations, but look at other 'big' bikes and their exhausts aren't so ugly! Heck, look at the new FJR. It's exhausts are big, but they at least made them look decent.
You know the really weird part. The ZX14 had a beautiful dual exhaust, where as they went with the single Howitzer look on the C14. Over the years you have heard little in the line of how folks liked the C14 exhaust, but you heard how they really didn't. We also have heard many times how the ZX14 exhaust looked good and folks installed them on their C14's. But rather than Kawasaki taking that nice look of the ZX14 for the C14. The went the other way and took the (IMO) less than aesthetically pleasing look of the C14 exhaust and gave the ZX14 that look. You really gotta wonder sometimes. ???
Initially I thought "ehh, cutting 4" off that cannon wouldn't make that much difference". Boy was I wrong. That looks much better. I think Kawi should hire that guy to design their exhausts. I'd still rather see a symmetrical dual exhaust on nearly every bike, but shaving some off the Connie's launcher certainly does help aesthetically speaking.johnnyc14 said:That modified muffler is mine. I had the bike dyno'd after I did it and there was no difference in power output until after I removed the flies and installed the PC3. Here's a link to the original thread on another site. I still have the bike, now with 40,000 km on it.
http://www.zxforums.com/forums/gtr-1400-forum/9977-exhaust-cut-down-2.html
mehush said:There was a recent thread about a Delkevic (sp?) slip-on that was reasonably priced and got favorable feedback.
I'm not a fan of the stock exhaust as far as looks or sound goes. But you know what they say.........it's hard to shine a turd. If I had plenty of expendable cash I would replace it. As it sits(stock), the bike performsjust fine..........and I guess I'm OK with that.
RideBellChain said:mehush said:There was a recent thread about a Delkevic (sp?) slip-on that was reasonably priced and got favorable feedback.
I'm not a fan of the stock exhaust as far as looks or sound goes. But you know what they say.........it's hard to shine a turd. If I had plenty of expendable cash I would replace it. As it sits(stock), the bike performsjust fine..........and I guess I'm OK with that.
The price is certainly right, but I'll give a full report when Santa delivers it! (Yes, I will gladly wrench on Christmas, too!)
I asked for the 18" pipe, but they come in different lengths which I'm guessing affects the sound. The length of the header ultimately affects performance, so I'm hoping it sounds beefier when I twist the throttle but still quiet for highway rides... I sent the wife the link for the stainless model...don't know if the Carbon fibre affects the sound differently, but I rarely take the bags off so it's pretty hidden anyway. They DO come with a 30-day money-back...
Fred_Harmon_TX said:Thanks for reposting those photos. I believe several folks have successfully shortened the muffler by cutting it like that, and it does make it look a whole lot better. Reports I read indicated it didn't change the sound, just made it smaller so it didn't stick out the back end so far.
The weld under the rear cap has to be ground off so the muffler core can then be pulled out of the outer casing. The section that gets cut off is the flame arrestor section off the FRONT end of the muffler core, and then the same length has to be cut off the REAR section of the outer casing, being careful to match the original cut angle, and the muffler internal core is then slid back in the outer casing and it has to be TIG welded back together at the rear when you're done.
Nando said:I try not to buy anything from Ebay or the U.K....especially things like mufflers.
though, I been know to buy a used book from Amazon.
HotWire said:I replaced mine with a custom built unit and saved almost 16 lbs. The sound isn't offensive and it looks much better. Another problem with retaining the stock unit is how restrictive the headpipe is. Shine a flaslight up the inlet and you'll see that it's only about 1 1/2" diameter with lots of restriction.
Nando said:ya living he drean RideBell
Bruce said:I have one question re: the stock muffler mod. After you have taken off the end cap, does the inner core just slide out, or are there welds that have to be broken first?
MAN OF BLUES said:Fred_Harmon_TX said:Thanks for reposting those photos. I believe several folks have successfully shortened the muffler by cutting it like that, and it does make it look a whole lot better. Reports I read indicated it didn't change the sound, just made it smaller so it didn't stick out the back end so far.
The weld under the rear cap has to be ground off so the muffler core can then be pulled out of the outer casing. The section that gets cut off is the flame arrestor section off the FRONT end of the muffler core, and then the same length has to be cut off the REAR section of the outer casing, being careful to match the original cut angle, and the muffler internal core is then slid back in the outer casing and it has to be TIG welded back together at the rear when you're done.
The chopped can IS louder than the stock un-moded one, but not abusive at all, it is just a touch throatier, and sounds more like what you would expect it to. I am running one that has 6 inches chopped out of it, done in the exact fashion shown in the photos. the end falls even with the edge of the bag. :great:
I had the photos up on Webshots...but they ditched all of us members when they switched to "Schmile"....argggggggg
when I get the photos posted up on another share site I'll post them. : :truce:
It does make the bike sound "proper" >
Fred_Harmon_TX said:The weld under the rear cap has to be ground off so the muffler core can then be pulled out of the outer casing. The section that gets cut off is the flame arrestor section off the FRONT end of the muffler core, and then the same length has to be cut off the REAR section of the outer casing, being careful to match the original cut angle, and the muffler internal core is then slid back in the outer casing and it has to be TIG welded back together at the rear when you're done.
Bruce said:Man O Blues, thanks. ...... Another question re: this mod...in the first pic, there is a cutout at the front of the muffler...what is that about?
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RideBellChain said:ZERO popping. And it's still quiet. Actually, it's a single easy bolt to remove the baffle. Going to try it this AM.
Went for a ride on the highway yesterday, and I couldn't really hear it...not that I want an overpowering sound because I do like to listen to music in my helmet, but if I can go louder without disturbing the tunes, it just adds to my "visibility" to the zombies...I'll post another vid later after I get into the garage.
RideBellChain said:Concours 14 with Delkevic pipe no baffle
So I just got to work...no popping on deceleration at all. VERY happy without the baffle. Now I hear the pipe - not loud, no problem with my music, and at 60mph, I hear wind and no pipe. PURRRRRRfect!
The baffle came out in under 1 minute, too.
I would recommend this pipe. I might even venture to say that I have a little more mid-range torque? Hard to tell, but maybe. I didn't wind it out past 7k....yet!
Nando said:Tomorrow I am taking my muffler in to have it shrunk.
I am a little scary-cat...I hope I like it cause I hate to have to buy another one...and have to re-mortgage the house.
But I bet there are tons of folks with OEM cans sitting around in their garage...no?
ZG said:Nando said:Tomorrow I am taking my muffler in to have it shrunk.
I am a little scary-cat...I hope I like it cause I hate to have to buy another one...and have to re-mortgage the house.
But I bet there are tons of folks with OEM cans sitting around in their garage...no?
If it doesn't turn out to your liking you can pick up another for dirt cheap because nobody wants them because they are so heavy and ugly. Only down side is you'll have to pay like $300 for shipping because it's soooo heavy...
nando said:School on this brother: cause I go on the Delkevic page and there is no application of their slip on for the C14...It ain't even listed on the Kawa bike models link...whats up wit dat?
Tomorrow Torpedo exhaust is going for a face lift...
QUESTION: Can one cut that grey cover on the front off some? is it ok to remove that chrome cover under the peg?
RideBellChain said:Guys - I posted (thought it was this thread, but I guess not) video of my new 18" Delkevic pipe, ran it with and without the baffle. I LOVE IT. Save your money and buy this pipe. I have no idea why the competitiors cost twice as much... The folks at the event today heard it, and I think everyone really liked it.
It cannot be heard on the highway, unless you punch it...but now my bike sounds like a healthy bike and not a sewing machine.
Search for "Delkevic" and I'm sure you can find my posts...
Don't waste your time modifying that 50 pound potato launcher... Just my $0.02...
mehush said:There was a recent thread about a Delkevic (sp?) slip-on that was reasonably priced and got favorable feedback.
I'm not a fan of the stock exhaust as far as looks or sound goes. But you know what they say.........it's hard to shine a turd. If I had plenty of expendable cash I would replace it. As it sits(stock), the bike performsjust fine..........and I guess I'm OK with that.
TJ said:The quality is better than I expected for 200 delivered. I would buy again in a heartbeat.
nando said:Yea Bruce,
...that Delkevic is started to sound good to me about the time I picked up the bazooka from the machinist who cut it up...did'nt look much different, nor did it become any lighter...only good thing is that it is still quiet...