GaryW
Bicycle
Hi - been lurking and researching on COG since picking up 11 C14 6 weeks ago - really helped dial it in quickly and obtaining aftermarket solutions (seat, pegs, windscreen, et al). Put 3000 miles on it first 30 days, pretty much lives in dealer shop now. According to Kawi, it is only bike in the world with problem....
The engine has intermittent missing, occurred about 7 times to date. Sometimes after fill up, sometimes half tank, sometimes days without an issue. The history:
- bike break in revs followed per manual, no over revs
- tank never filled into neck, per EVAP warning sticker
- dealer blew out EVAP lines, charcoal canister, and ran the bike trying to bypass all the emissions junk, none fixed issue
- Kawi rep had dealer check coils, spark plugs, no issue
- Dealer states no trouble codes from computer (hence, no code =no issue...), the techs can disassemble, replace, reassemble, but not diagnose
- I ran the bike for the dealer with all cowling removed and a small clamp to block off the blue or green EVAP lines to see if that would ID a potential fix; alas, the issue did not occur during a 140 mile test
The actual issues as occurred:
1- ~1500 miles on bike, 95 degrees, riding around town, occurred after fill up to bottom of neck and bike parked in sun for 20 minutes immediately after filling tank. Resolved itself after 20 miles.
2- ~1800 mi, 85 degrees, occurred 20 miles after fill up, in open desert, flat road, solved itself in 50 miles
3 - ~2100 mi, almost identical to #2, resolved in 20 miles
4 - ~2500 mi, 90-100 degrees, 50 miles after fill up, did not resolve during 40 mile ride home, resolved overnight
5- ~2800 mi, 75-80 degrees, 80 miles after fill up, did not resolve in 170 miles or overnight, resolved as pulling into dealer next day
6- ~2900 mi, 80 degrees, picked up at dealer (could not replicate issue) rode 5 mi, filled tank to 3/4" below neck, immediate issue, returned dealer, they agreed, problem.
7 ~3100 mi, today, 85 degrees, 54 miles after fill up, did not resolve during 60 mi return to dealer. Dealer has no idea what to do, calling Kawi again. No code, no problem, except they agree there is a problem, but, gee, no code....
While riding when issue occurs, it feels like only 3 cylinders operating, has about 2/3 power, vibrates in all gears (feels like riding constantly over Bott's dots), dropping a gear or two and running hard to 10k revs does not "purge" the issue, venting the tank with engine off or running does not solve the issue, bad gas does not appear to be problem as I occurs after multiple stations and all brand name, swearing at or complimenting bike has no effect.
So, that is the basic history, have not found anything similar on COG or elsewhere. If it gets resolved, or if a new bike is the result, I'll advise here.
It is a special feeling to have bike 1 of 1 .....
Gary
The engine has intermittent missing, occurred about 7 times to date. Sometimes after fill up, sometimes half tank, sometimes days without an issue. The history:
- bike break in revs followed per manual, no over revs
- tank never filled into neck, per EVAP warning sticker
- dealer blew out EVAP lines, charcoal canister, and ran the bike trying to bypass all the emissions junk, none fixed issue
- Kawi rep had dealer check coils, spark plugs, no issue
- Dealer states no trouble codes from computer (hence, no code =no issue...), the techs can disassemble, replace, reassemble, but not diagnose
- I ran the bike for the dealer with all cowling removed and a small clamp to block off the blue or green EVAP lines to see if that would ID a potential fix; alas, the issue did not occur during a 140 mile test
The actual issues as occurred:
1- ~1500 miles on bike, 95 degrees, riding around town, occurred after fill up to bottom of neck and bike parked in sun for 20 minutes immediately after filling tank. Resolved itself after 20 miles.
2- ~1800 mi, 85 degrees, occurred 20 miles after fill up, in open desert, flat road, solved itself in 50 miles
3 - ~2100 mi, almost identical to #2, resolved in 20 miles
4 - ~2500 mi, 90-100 degrees, 50 miles after fill up, did not resolve during 40 mile ride home, resolved overnight
5- ~2800 mi, 75-80 degrees, 80 miles after fill up, did not resolve in 170 miles or overnight, resolved as pulling into dealer next day
6- ~2900 mi, 80 degrees, picked up at dealer (could not replicate issue) rode 5 mi, filled tank to 3/4" below neck, immediate issue, returned dealer, they agreed, problem.
7 ~3100 mi, today, 85 degrees, 54 miles after fill up, did not resolve during 60 mi return to dealer. Dealer has no idea what to do, calling Kawi again. No code, no problem, except they agree there is a problem, but, gee, no code....
While riding when issue occurs, it feels like only 3 cylinders operating, has about 2/3 power, vibrates in all gears (feels like riding constantly over Bott's dots), dropping a gear or two and running hard to 10k revs does not "purge" the issue, venting the tank with engine off or running does not solve the issue, bad gas does not appear to be problem as I occurs after multiple stations and all brand name, swearing at or complimenting bike has no effect.
So, that is the basic history, have not found anything similar on COG or elsewhere. If it gets resolved, or if a new bike is the result, I'll advise here.
It is a special feeling to have bike 1 of 1 .....
Gary